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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2009, 08:55 PM »

I hate when people do that. They've been fans of something "since the beginning" so whatever their opinion is is the most valid one around because of it. Blah.

You suck though! I loved The F Word. I liked Whale !$@$&s, but not that much. Maybe because I wasnt really aware of reality shows like Whale Wars. so some of the comedic value was lost on me. Not that I couldn't understand it, it was damn clear why they were making fun of them. But the motorcycle thing...that's something I see too often and I think exactly the same as what the show did, so I guess it made it a whole lot better.
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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2009, 09:25 PM »

A lot of the shows are just "you're either on the train or not", such as the Pandemic episodes about the Peruvian Flute bands, (though I still found it funny even though I've never seen any)

Also, the thing that made the Whale Whores episode for me (Whore is censored, use blocks :P) Was Cartman singing Poker Face. And Chicken and Cow.

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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2009, 11:55 PM »

I loved the Pan Flute bands even though I dont hate them at all either, nor do I see them. I just liked it.
Plus the "monsters" were just...goddamn hilariously adorable!
A !$@$&ING GUINEASAURUS REX! And it was just funny all the time imo.

How exaggerated people's hate for the bands were, the military or government people or whatever being so retarded, like wondering where Peruvian Flute Bands come from and saying they did not found the country Peruvian on a map. Or Randy being !$@$&ing retarded the entire time. Or Craig pointing every South Park cliche about how the story of each episode always plays out and totally bashing the other 4.
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« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2009, 12:04 AM »

LOL at the Peruvian Flute Bands episode (which was a double one actually).

I have actually seen some of those bands here in Mexico. I like them :) ...and now we're talking about Peru, I really want to go to Machu Picchu at some point of my life. People say it's a great place to visit.
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« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2009, 04:17 AM »

south park is so point less and funny
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« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2009, 02:24 AM »

Well, Season 13 is over, how did it fair?
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« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2009, 02:02 AM »

Its pretty gooooood. Not the best, for sure, but it was good. South Park rarely disappoints me. Maybe an episode here or there is subpar, but overall, I always end up satisfied, at least if you look at overall seasons.
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« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2009, 05:26 AM »

Well. sadly it was no season 8, but happily, it was no season 2. Good season, especially after a mildly disappointing twelfth season.

I's also like to add that South Park is anything but pointless. Ranging from fart jokes to brilliant satire, it knows how to please everyone except really conservative dickwads.
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« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2010, 01:58 AM »

BUMP: (for the new episode)

It was all right. The first part was great, but some of the jokes got stale after a while. Still a pretty good start though.
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« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2010, 03:03 PM »

Same here. It wasn't bad, it was still enjoyable to watch, but after the first half I wasn't lol'ing as much. I did like the shifty eyes and the "banging" fists on the tables :P
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« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2010, 04:21 PM »

Pretty good Facebook episode. Some of the satire was just spot on. The Medicinal Fried Chicken episode was also pretty good.
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« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2010, 04:30 PM »

Good episodes so far. Last night's was hilarious imo, it was so damn spot on, and Kip...he's so full of win. Im hoping his thing goes viral or something. I won't be forgetting him for a while, and making that facebook page for him...genius!

The Yahtzee thing...hahahahahhahaha XD
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« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2010, 04:38 PM »

I have to agree with Adrian Ling on all points, although I want to add some stuff too.

Well, to start South Park is very dynamic, why? Well, because it’s constantly changing. Kenny’s death was, during the first seasons, a recurrent joke, but from the third one the creators themselves started to make fun of the idea; Kenny is still dying but that doesn’t even surprise the characters.

I think that it's ability to talk about recent events very soon after they happen also provides legitimacy.


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In the other side, many people classify South Park as a show for kids. South Park hides the criticism to the North American society, according to the beliefs of the authors, of course. Watching the series, you can see how they attack for example the parents’ lack of interest to their sons, the hypocritical society, the racial prejudices, the government’s stupidity and … a long list.

I think that the reason it's so popular is everybody in America knows from some degree or another that things aren't going so smoothly and a lot of things are wrong in our culture.  South Park is one of the only shows that takes a crack at it and hits well.  Some people are angry (tea party), a bunch of the youth doesn't vote. (myself included), our government is doing who knows what, and it just kinda sucks.  Now, some people might disagree with my view, and I'll accept that, but still I don't think they can deny that much of south parks popularity stems from what Adrian mentioned.
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At the same time, using 8 year old kids means a big load. Yes, they are bad-mannered and very “mature” at the same time, but at the end they are still being just kids and this is shown in a lot of episodes where they do “bad” things without knowing and in an innocent way.

The south park kids are probably somewhere in between eight years old and high school age mentally, but I think (at least from my childhood experience) kids are worse mannered and more 'mature' when they are away from their parents or authority influences.  It's more of a reflection on real life then just being crude to be crude.

Episodes like the parody of The Lord of the Rings, where the kids carry a pornographic movie without knowing because they thought it was an ordinary movie and only wanted to deliver it back since it is causing strange things is a clear example of the protagonists’ innocence.

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It is also much criticized that Cartman is the engine of the series. He is, without any doubt, who causes the 90% of the conflicts, but we need to know that in these kind of series there’s always a character who stands out from the rest. For example if we remove Homer from The Simpsons, the series would disappear entirely.

I think of it like this: most stories have some sort of evil character that everyone fights against.  In English class you guys probably learned that it is the villain, and not the hero, that drives the story.  Even though cartmen isn't EXACTLY a villain, he is necessary to the story for that reason.

Another legitimizing factor is that cartmen isn't real.   He's an awful person.  Think of how many times a day you want to yell at someone or laugh at them for being stupid and racist and you can't for various reasons.  Well now you have that outlet.

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That’s why South Park has a deeper content of what it seems at first glance. The series has an acid criticism of the North American society, from a point of view that we can share or not, but that exists indeed. Those who criticize the series as a thing without any depth, it is obvious that they are doing a simplified review without any commitment for the series.

At the end South Park is always evolving and keeps the same pattern. It changes and gets renewed day by day and that’s why it has lasted so many seasons.

Well said, sir.
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« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2010, 05:44 PM »

Well, to start South Park is very dynamic, why? Well, because it’s constantly changing. Kenny’s death was, during the first seasons, a recurrent joke, but from the third one the creators themselves started to make fun of the idea; Kenny is still dying but that doesn’t even surprise the characters.

I think that it's ability to talk about recent events very soon after they happen also provides legitimacy.

Too true. Didn't they make a 9/11 episode weeks after the incident, for example?

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In the other side, many people classify South Park as a show for kids. South Park hides the criticism to the North American society, according to the beliefs of the authors, of course. Watching the series, you can see how they attack for example the parents’ lack of interest to their sons, the hypocritical society, the racial prejudices, the government’s stupidity and … a long list.

I think that the reason it's so popular is everybody in America knows from some degree or another that things aren't going so smoothly and a lot of things are wrong in our culture.  South Park is one of the only shows that takes a crack at it and hits well.  Some people are angry (tea party), a bunch of the youth doesn't vote. (myself included), our government is doing who knows what, and it just kinda sucks.  Now, some people might disagree with my view, and I'll accept that, but still I don't think they can deny that much of south parks popularity stems from what Adrian mentioned.

They're not all that subtle most of the time (not upfront about it, but not incredibly subtle), but yea...a lot of people just completely miss the messages the writers try to incorporate.

Or, well, maybe people read too much into things sometimes. They did that too...but then reading into that episode goes against the supposed message, unless there is none, then you're reading into something that isn't there and...well, I thought that concept was hilarious.
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At the same time, using 8 year old kids means a big load. Yes, they are bad-mannered and very “mature” at the same time, but at the end they are still being just kids and this is shown in a lot of episodes where they do “bad” things without knowing and in an innocent way.

The south park kids are probably somewhere in between eight years old and high school age mentally, but I think (at least from my childhood experience) kids are worse mannered and more 'mature' when they are away from their parents or authority influences.  It's more of a reflection on real life then just being crude to be crude.

I think in some episodes, the fact that they're kids is forgotten a little, but overall, there's always the innocence..or ignorance...of being a kid that changes a situation completely than if it was handled by adults. You wouldn't have episodes like  NAMBLA, or sex education in schools (which was funnier, the way south park did it, or Family Guy?) or the sex addiction in elementary schools.

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Episodes like the parody of The Lord of the Rings, where the kids carry a pornographic movie without knowing because they thought it was an ordinary movie and only wanted to deliver it back since it is causing strange things is a clear example of the protagonists’ innocence.

Yep, or like that one. One of my favorites too.

Don't have much more to add. Adrian described it so well.
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« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2010, 08:30 PM »

No, they didn't make a 9/11 episode. They made an episode where the kids went to Afghanistan months after the incident, and they made fun of the capture of Saddam Hussein 3 DAYS after it happened.
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« Reply #55 on: April 11, 2010, 09:21 PM »

Wow...
Yes, that's the one I meant...
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« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2010, 09:28 PM »

Well, I could've reworded my post.

It's still kind of the same principle though. I liked the anthrax joke in the beginning of that episode.
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« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2010, 03:45 AM »

I just watched "Medicinal Fried Chicken."  That was one of the funniest episodes I've seen in a while.
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« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2010, 12:32 AM »

I really liked this last two-parter, especially tonight's episode. The first one was alright. Love all the references!
And the Sea Man jokes, to me, were even more hilarious than the first time.

"Its SEA Man and Swallow"
"Swallow, come!"

AND SCOTT TENORMAN!! XD
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« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2010, 09:19 PM »

That episode was pretty great! I can't believe they managed to reveal Cartman's father in a conclusion that was actually satisfying!

Oh, and did you hear that they made the news? That episode wasn't supposed to be censored.

I have a feeling that they are going to make great progress to our culture by doing this. Let's just hope that Comedy Central doesn't get bombed...
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