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« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2009, 09:07 PM »

Jesus Christ, you guys got really mad. I didn't say that because ZREO was the biggest breakthrough in redoing songs, I just said that because you guys used SMREO. Why does it have to be reorchestrated? That's something ZREO came up with. It's not even a real word. Do something a bit more original. I see "reorchestrated" and I think ZREO only because that's where the term came from.
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« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2009, 11:27 PM »

Same with www.smreomusic.com and www.mreomusic.com

It's best to not make people think and become confused about the relation between them because they are not related. The only way they are is that the other REOs were inspired by us.
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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2009, 12:01 AM »

How about we all just do a barrel roll?

*does a barrel roll*

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« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2009, 01:26 PM »

Yay Karma!!!!  ;D
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« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2009, 07:41 PM »

Jesus Christ, you guys got really mad. I didn't say that because ZREO was the biggest breakthrough in redoing songs, I just said that because you guys used SMREO. Why does it have to be reorchestrated? That's something ZREO came up with. It's not even a real word. Do something a bit more original. I see "reorchestrated" and I think ZREO only because that's where the term came from.

I won't argue that.  Probably should have your initial comment more defined rather than vague/short.

I use the term "remastered" myself for all of my redone music even though that isn't even a technically correct term.

"rearranged" or "symphonized" (I rather like symphonized myself since it means in harmony) could be other terms. 

Both these sites have already setup their domains though so I don't see it changing.  But yes, I agree the "REO" is inspired from ZREO.
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« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2009, 03:01 PM »

Do you guys have to re-orchestrate EVERYTHING?

And by the way, since Mario music isn't orchestrated (except Galaxy) in the first place.... then it should be called... Super Mario Orchestrated.

Wouldn't that make it SMO? Hey guys I'm a fan of..SMO...
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« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2009, 07:56 AM »

Or perhaps MariO.
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« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2009, 08:02 AM »

What is Project SMREO ?
Project SMREO is our take on the various songs from the Super Mario series, We don’t intend to just orchestrate the songs but create entire new listening experiences with them, We hope you enjoy the music we create here and will comment back in the forums.

How Often Is Music Released ?
Unlike ZREO (Zelda Reorchestrated) we don’t have a set time for our music to be released, We make no weekly promises because sometimes songs take longer than that and we think it would ultimately benefit everyone if we spent the time to give you the best experience possible rather than rush and give you decent tracks.

Cool, Do You Need Any Help ?
We are currently seeking contributors to the site, feel free to share your samples with us at SMREO@smreomusic.com We look forward to hearing them, If you’re not a musical pro then you can still help us by supporting the site and donating when possible, We appreciate all the help and look forward to giving you a Super Mario experience to remember.

- Team SMREO
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« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2010, 06:31 AM »

You guys know it would be completely awesome and people all across the internet would recognize you more if you tried a different genre, right? It seems someone already brought this up (The redundancy of "reorchestrating" every Nintendo series), but just because orchestrating a piece can technically (no offense to the ZREO team) be as easy as grabbing a midi and stuffing it through EWQLSO or whatever hi-tech program you have, it doesn't mean that you should do it. If I were you, and I was a talented musician, I would personally do jazz, since Mario music has always been jazzy. Zelda music on the other hand has always been epic and orchestral, so that's explains the REO in ZREO.

Also (I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, I'm just a little 'befuddled'), how comes the URL for your site is smreomusic.com? It makes it seem like a rip-off or a subproject of ZREO. On top of that, it's not like smreo.com is taken, unlike ZREO who most likely chose to be "zreomusic.com" because "zreo.com" already exists.

What is Project SMREO ?
Project SMREO is our take on the various songs from the Super Mario series, We don’t intend to just orchestrate the songs but create entire new listening experiences with them, We hope you enjoy the music we create here and will comment back in the forums.
So uhh, why is your name SMREO if you're not going to be orchestrating the entire soundtrack? I'd go for maybe SMR or SMRM (Super Mario Remastered).

What I'm saying, I guess, I'm pretty damn tired right now so I have little idea of what I'm saying at all, is that it seems that you're copying ZREO. Much like MREO, which to me at least is a silly idea seeing how Metroid music rarely ever lends itself to orchestration. So, while you guys are fresh, I suggest you switch things up and try to be unique.

Hopefully that made a smidgen of sense.

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« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2010, 06:55 AM »

I completely understand where you are coming from, RDX. SMREO actually will have a Jazz approach with more suitable tracks. Remember that the people who came up with the other REOs were inspired by ZREO so they're just making their point by having similar domain names and all that although that is not the best way to show that inspiration.

I know that having "mreomusic" and "smreomusic" seems like a rip-off. Remember that the founders of those sites are not musicians themselves apart from the new Pokémon Reorchestrated (yet another REO lol) which was started by a musician so it can be difficult to come up with a name. It seems like a no-brainer to just stick with the format that ZREO has with the name and all that. It seems like the safest bet however it definitely has its downsides. Since it sounds like a rip-off, it gives the immediate impression that the "subprojects" are just trying to be like ZREO in terms of standards and following the REO trend.

SMREO plans to "reorchestrate" every Mario game. That includes Mario Kart, Mario Party etc. Personally I reckon it should just stick with Mario games with "Super" in front of them.

So yea, I also highly recommend a name change - It's for the better.

By the way, I'm doing the teaser for SMREO so quite a number of first impressions will be made obsolete. ;)
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« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2010, 07:03 PM »

Well then........
We plan to have a mix of orchestral as well as jazz arrangements. As for the whole rip-off accusation, I can see where you're coming from. Keep in mind, we're not "copying" ZREO , rather, we are inspired by it. I sense Renji and I have slightly different ideas on which direction we want the site to go, but i'm sure we will resolve them with time. Something different we're doing is that SMREO will offer sheet music for many of our re-orchestrations, at least the ones I arrange. This is something ZREO has done to an extent with Open Symphony, but really the focus here is to get the music OUT there. I want people to go out there and play our arrangements.

I hope that clears things up...maybe :P

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« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2010, 11:03 PM »

Hey guys,

Just thought I'd mention that I am still working on some stuff for SMREO, and I will have at least one track finished in the next couple of weeks. And, like ComradeYeltsen, I will also be able to provide sheet music for all of my tracks.
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« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2010, 12:43 AM »

Hey guys,

Just thought I'd mention that I am still working on some stuff for SMREO, and I will have at least one track finished in the next couple of weeks. And, like ComradeYeltsen, I will also be able to provide sheet music for all of my tracks.

YAY!
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« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2010, 01:53 AM »

On the subject of all the "REOs" being ripoffs, I have do disagree. They're clearly inspired by ZREO, and they choose to use a similar name because it's well known. I don't see a problem with it. I like the idea of ZREO, MREO, SMREO, and PREO. Now we need DKREO, WREO, YREO, KREO, SFREO, FEREO FZREO, EBREO, and ACREO. Maybe it's just me, but I think that would be awesome. I dream of a world full of REOs... As long as they don't spell it "R.E.O.", that is. That drives me CRAZY!! "REO" isn't an acronym, it's an abbreviation. If you're going to use periods at all, it should look like this: Z.REO., M.REO, S.M.REO., etc. And that doesn't look good, so you should just stick to ZREO, MREO, SMREO, etc., without any periods.

I do agree with Beedle Mycro_chip in that I think that SMREO should only do the main series Super Mario games (Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels, Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario Land, Super Mario Bros. 3,  Super Mario World, Super Mario Land 2, Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, New Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, and Super Mario Galaxy 2). Doing any more than that is just insane. You want to have a goal that's actually possible to achieve, don't you? If you throw in all the spinoff games, you'll never complete everything. I say save Mario Kart, Mario Party, Paper Mario, etc., for other REOs. MKREO, MPREO, MRPGREO, and MSREO, anyone?
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« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2010, 03:07 PM »

Come to think of it, what is that tendacy with people wanting to "re"orchestrate everything? Look at Metroid for example since most of that just uses synthesisers. It's not exactly reorchestrating. Another example is Mario Kart. Tell me what is so orchestral about that?
All in all, some franchises are more suitable for "reorchestrating" than others.
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« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2010, 03:31 PM »

You know, I was thinking the same thing myself. Hmmmmm.....
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« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2010, 08:00 PM »

Come to think of it, what is that tendacy with people wanting to "re"orchestrate everything? Look at Metroid for example since most of that just uses synthesisers. It's not exactly reorchestrating. Another example is Mario Kart. Tell me what is so orchestral about that?
All in all, some franchises are more suitable for "reorchestrating" than others.
Well, since there hasn't been a single Zelda game with music performed by an orchestra (unlike the Mario series, because Galaxy was orchestrated), it's not really possible to "re"orchestrate the Zelda series, either, yet you're called Zelda Reorchestrated anyway.
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« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2010, 08:17 PM »

Well, since there hasn't been a single Zelda game with music performed by an orchestra (unlike the Mario series, because Galaxy was orchestrated), it's not really possible to "re"orchestrate the Zelda series, either, yet you're called Zelda Reorchestrated anyway.
Well if you're saying it like that then your definition of an orchestration is off.  An orchestration is not a recording of a live orchestra... Simply, you could say that it's music that is arranged to be played by an orchestra (or any group of instruments), and if that's how you interpret it I can see why you might be confused.  But there's a different way to define the term, and I'll let Wikipedia do it:

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...Orchestration also refers to the re-adaptation of existing music into another medium, particularly a full or reduced orchestra. There are two general kinds of adaptation: transcription, which closely follows the original piece, and arrangement, which tends to change significant aspects of the original piece...


This is a very good way to describe ZREO, I think.
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« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2010, 08:49 PM »

Wouldn't you think that Koji Kondo himself always wanted an orchestra ever since 'The Legend of Zelda'? The technology just wasn't there at the time. Even the synthesised sounds from the past games sound like orchestral instruments so technically speaking it is fine to call ourselves "reorchestrators".
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« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2010, 09:10 PM »

Well, since there hasn't been a single Zelda game with music performed by an orchestra (unlike the Mario series, because Galaxy was orchestrated), it's not really possible to "re"orchestrate the Zelda series, either, yet you're called Zelda Reorchestrated anyway.
Well if you're saying it like that then your definition of an orchestration is off.  An orchestration is not a recording of a live orchestra... Simply, you could say that it's music that is arranged to be played by an orchestra (or any group of instruments), and if that's how you interpret it I can see why you might be confused.  But there's a different way to define the term, and I'll let Wikipedia do it:

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...Orchestration also refers to the re-adaptation of existing music into another medium, particularly a full or reduced orchestra. There are two general kinds of adaptation: transcription, which closely follows the original piece, and arrangement, which tends to change significant aspects of the original piece...


This is a very good way to describe ZREO, I think.
Oh, I wasn't aware that the term had a second definition. =p
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